Episode 43 Ask Me Anything Q&A.txt
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01:00:00.280 — 01:00:02.960 · Speaker 1
Is social media really necessary?
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Without doing this podcast, I don't know if you would know what some of the struggles are.
01:00:07.760 — 01:00:11.040 · Speaker 1
You've got your opinions. Carl's got an opinion. I've got an opinion.
01:00:11.760 — 01:00:16.640 · Speaker 2
We will not even discuss a topic. Yes, before the cameras are rolling.
01:00:16.680 — 01:00:20.480 · Speaker 1
I have a full time job. How can I possibly do a weekly podcast?
01:00:20.640 — 01:00:25.160 · Speaker 2
It's quite hard to put together 12 different outfits and.
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Consistency or quality.
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How much do we charge to run a podcast?
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Welcome back to the podcast cave. I'm joined today by Richard for our very first Ask Me Anything episode.
01:00:40.200 — 01:00:41.120 · Speaker 2
Podcast related.
01:00:41.120 — 01:00:57.520 · Speaker 1
Podcast related, Ask Me Anything podcast related. Thanks for that correction. Could have gotten weird. We asked you a couple of weeks ago to send us your questions, and you did. And now we're going to answer some of them. Rich.
01:00:57.640 — 01:00:58.240 · Speaker 2
Cool.
01:00:58.600 — 01:00:59.520 · Speaker 1
I'll start.
01:00:59.760 — 01:01:00.600 · Speaker 2
Okay, cool.
01:01:00.640 — 01:01:08.980 · Speaker 1
Okay. First of all, Jackie says, is social media really necessary for my podcast? I don't think Jackie likes social media.
01:01:10.020 — 01:01:12.660 · Speaker 1
It looks like she wants us to say, no, you don't really need it.
01:01:12.700 — 01:01:26.260 · Speaker 2
You don't need it. It just form your podcast and they will come. Yes. No, I would say it's necessary for, you know, the nice thing about a podcast, you can cut it down and it becomes your social media content. So yes, use social media to promote your podcast. I mean.
01:01:26.460 — 01:01:37.220 · Speaker 1
Well, I think that's the first thing I want to say to Jackie. You definitely need social media, even if it's just to get more people to know about your podcast, you don't have to come up with a whole bunch of separate content.
01:01:37.820 — 01:01:38.660 · Speaker 2
Yes, 100%.
01:01:38.660 — 01:01:44.180 · Speaker 1
Obviously she could if she if she wants to. But yes, Jackie. Social media is necessary.
01:01:44.300 — 01:01:55.820 · Speaker 2
For your podcast for any anything you want to get us on. Really? Yeah. All right. So we've got another one here from Jenny. How do you guys come up with episode ideas consistently?
01:01:55.860 — 01:02:16.649 · Speaker 1
Hmm. Okay, so we've got that list. Uh, we have a document that is just a rolling document. All of our topic ideas. Say episode xx. And then there's the topic idea. And then at the start of each
01:02:18.170 — 01:02:51.290 · Speaker 1
session where we sit down to record our our episodes, we talk about all the topic ideas. Um, and I think what's also quite different about what we do is that we try to retain the discussion for the actual recording. Yeah. So, you know, we have these topics, you've got your opinions, Carl's got an opinion, I've got an opinion and we don't discuss those ahead of the app.
We just sit down and we. Yeah. And we let them happen in front of the camera.
01:02:51.330 — 01:03:00.250 · Speaker 2
Mm. For me, the way we come up with our ideas consistently is by actually doing a podcast.
01:03:00.290 — 01:03:01.010 · Speaker 1
Yes.
01:03:01.050 — 01:03:15.590 · Speaker 2
And talking about the challenges that we felt so without doing this podcast. I don't know if we would know what some of the struggles are. That's it. So by doing this podcast, we come up with the topic ideas. Also guests that we can get to determine what we talk about.
01:03:15.950 — 01:03:22.990 · Speaker 1
So our next one is from Patrick. He has asked what's more important consistency or quality.
01:03:23.350 — 01:03:34.430 · Speaker 2
For me quality is more important. Okay. I personally don't want to be in a situation where I've just got like a number of episodes I need to pump out, regardless of how I'm feeling.
01:03:34.470 — 01:03:34.670 · Speaker 1
Or.
01:03:35.270 — 01:03:44.310 · Speaker 2
Who the guest is or what we're talking about. Yes. So. But I do think you can have both. I think you can produce quality episodes consistently. Just don't overcommit. So yeah.
01:03:44.310 — 01:03:48.070 · Speaker 1
So it's actually about determining that frequency that matches.
01:03:48.110 — 01:03:53.590 · Speaker 2
If it takes you a month to produce a quality episode. Yeah. Do one episode a month. Yeah.
01:03:53.790 — 01:03:54.350 · Speaker 1
Yeah.
01:03:54.390 — 01:03:55.750 · Speaker 2
That's how I feel about it.
01:03:55.790 — 01:04:37.100 · Speaker 1
So I think that the decision needs to be ahead of you starting your podcast journey. What can I manage and commit to? And then try to be consistent around that and create something that you can do beautifully within that time. Yeah. You know, I think for us, we have a really good plan ahead of each session where we shoot, and we aim to do 12 episodes in each shoot session.
Um, if we weren't organized ahead of that, I don't think we'd manage to do one app every week. Um, and just because we're doing one app every week, Patrick, doesn't mean that you have to.
01:04:37.620 — 01:04:38.100 · Speaker 2
Yes.
01:04:38.140 — 01:04:40.700 · Speaker 1
You know. Yeah, maybe once a month. That's also fine.
01:04:41.220 — 01:04:46.700 · Speaker 2
Um, next question from Cindy. Where do you guys script your episodes or keep it natural?
01:04:47.340 — 01:04:49.060 · Speaker 1
I think that's very obvious.
01:04:50.660 — 01:04:52.420 · Speaker 1
We say unscripted.
01:04:52.460 — 01:05:01.300 · Speaker 2
Yeah, we don't script our episodes. We keep it pretty natural because, um, we are just bad at it. Otherwise.
01:05:01.580 — 01:05:02.500 · Speaker 3
I was going to say.
01:05:02.540 — 01:05:06.440 · Speaker 1
Trying to get us to stick to a script. I think It's just not trained for that.
01:05:06.480 — 01:05:17.960 · Speaker 2
It seems stilted. Uh, we. So, um, we will not even discuss the topic. Yes. Before the cameras are rolling so that we actually have an honest conversation.
01:05:18.000 — 01:05:37.600 · Speaker 1
And I think what's cool about it. If if your content lends itself the listening experience is better because you are listening to people having a conversation. But I do also think it depends on the kind of podcast that you're doing. So because we know a lot about the topic, we can just discuss it.
01:05:37.920 — 01:05:42.880 · Speaker 2
Well, I wouldn't do an off the cuff true true crime podcast.
01:05:42.920 — 01:05:43.600 · Speaker 3
No, that.
01:05:43.600 — 01:05:43.920 · Speaker 1
Would be.
01:05:43.920 — 01:05:45.760 · Speaker 3
Silly. Anything like that.
01:05:45.800 — 01:05:53.240 · Speaker 2
So yeah, if it's if it's news or something else, you're not. But we do. We we know what we're going to talk about, but we reserve our opinions.
01:05:53.280 — 01:05:54.880 · Speaker 1
And we don't know what we're going to say.
01:05:54.920 — 01:05:57.280 · Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. So it's not it's it's.
01:05:57.320 — 01:05:57.720 · Speaker 3
Yes.
01:05:57.760 — 01:06:05.800 · Speaker 1
Yeah. I think also what's interesting is that the podcast allows you the format allows you to discuss because it's going to be edited.
01:06:06.000 — 01:06:06.240 · Speaker 3
Yeah.
01:06:06.350 — 01:06:19.390 · Speaker 1
So, you know, we might discuss something and there's parts of that discussion or that at that point that just rambles on and those parts get cut out. So yeah, I think this is a format that does allow you to be unscripted.
01:06:19.790 — 01:06:20.110 · Speaker 3
Yeah.
01:06:20.150 — 01:06:27.350 · Speaker 1
All right. My turn. Um, what podcasts do you listen to regularly? That's a question from Matt.
01:06:27.390 — 01:06:30.310 · Speaker 2
You answer that one. I don't listen to podcasts regularly.
01:06:30.830 — 01:06:31.110 · Speaker 3
Okay.
01:06:31.150 — 01:06:32.150 · Speaker 2
Studios podcast.
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Other than arts?
01:06:33.350 — 01:07:07.190 · Speaker 1
Of course. Yes. Okay, well, I listen to a lot of true crime. I also listen to creator science. Creator science as a fantastic one. It's not local, but it is, um, it's very relevant to our industry. So although the focus is kind of more on marketing and, um, social media, there's a lot of stuff that's really relevant to our day to day business.
Um, so I listen to that a lot. Those are probably my most my, my most listened to. I think my absolute favorite is, uh, true crime South Africa.
01:07:07.250 — 01:07:07.490 · Speaker 3
Yeah.
01:07:07.530 — 01:07:08.490 · Speaker 2
I'll listen to that one, too.
01:07:08.530 — 01:07:08.810 · Speaker 3
Yeah.
01:07:08.810 — 01:07:14.730 · Speaker 1
We, um, obviously interviewed Nicole Engelbrecht, um, a couple of seasons ago.
01:07:14.770 — 01:07:15.570 · Speaker 3
That was cool.
01:07:15.610 — 01:07:27.930 · Speaker 1
Um, yeah, I would say she's my most listened to podcast. And then, um, the BBC also does a lot of really nice true crime stuff that I love.
01:07:28.490 — 01:07:38.930 · Speaker 2
Okay. Um, Karen says we've changed our intro music. Why did we do that? Um, well, that was. You know, I
01:07:40.050 — 01:07:45.490 · Speaker 2
personally just don't like anything generic or stock, so we've just made something more custom.
01:07:45.530 — 01:07:46.210 · Speaker 3
That we liked.
01:07:46.210 — 01:07:46.850 · Speaker 1
Better.
01:07:46.890 — 01:07:50.610 · Speaker 3
Yeah. Yes. That's it. Yes. That's simple. Yeah.
01:07:51.050 — 01:08:00.610 · Speaker 1
Okay. Um, uh, this guy says I have a full time job. How can I possibly do a weekly podcast? Sure. Can relate.
01:08:00.770 — 01:08:05.650 · Speaker 2
Yeah. And I think if you're trying to do a weekly podcast and film the episodes.
01:08:05.650 — 01:08:07.210 · Speaker 3
Weekly, weekly, you're in trouble.
01:08:07.610 — 01:08:24.760 · Speaker 2
Yeah. That's why we do it in batches. So at home we do a two day. Yeah. Pretty intense filming sessions. So. And we film almost three months worth of content. So we're here for two days. Then we don't have to think about it for, for three months. So that's how.
01:08:25.000 — 01:08:26.000 · Speaker 3
Yeah, we can do it.
01:08:26.000 — 01:08:31.280 · Speaker 1
I really feel like it is very doable to have a weekly episode.
01:08:31.600 — 01:08:31.880 · Speaker 3
Yeah.
01:08:31.920 — 01:09:02.720 · Speaker 1
If you are organized so you've got to do the planning, then the thinking ahead of time, then you come into studio and, and you do all the recording in one sitting. And so yeah. And I mean, I guess it also depends on your own schedule. So you would need the time out of the office to do that recording. And so you might even be in a situation where you take three days and you do recording for even longer.
Or a single day's worth of recording. But it's all about doing it in a batch. If you.
01:09:02.720 — 01:09:03.160 · Speaker 3
Try to do.
01:09:03.160 — 01:09:05.400 · Speaker 2
It, you don't have to take hours out every.
01:09:05.600 — 01:09:06.320 · Speaker 3
Every week.
01:09:06.320 — 01:09:14.940 · Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. um. Sia asks, what is your prep process ahead of shooting?
01:09:15.780 — 01:09:16.300 · Speaker 3
Okay.
01:09:16.660 — 01:09:20.180 · Speaker 2
I feel like we've kind of answered that already. We we just plan.
01:09:20.220 — 01:10:19.810 · Speaker 1
Well, maybe we can be specific about what our, like, documentation looks looks like. So we've got a spreadsheet that is outlining, um, the edits. So where the edits are in their, in their different stages. So that obviously comes out of a batch recording session. Um, so that's how we manage what episodes are going out each week.
Um, where we are with the writing of the captions, all of that. Um, but ahead of shooting, we have our document that is a list of all the topics that we're going to speak about and sort of a loose couple of talking points around what each of those episodes is going to cover. And we obviously also have to do planning around guests.
And I think that's where, um, that's where you have to be a little bit more organized because guests need time to be booked.
01:10:20.170 — 01:10:20.650 · Speaker 3
Yes.
01:10:20.690 — 01:10:28.410 · Speaker 1
And they need to know the slot that they're going to come into. We have to make sure that all of our team is ready for those particular dates.
01:10:28.650 — 01:10:30.970 · Speaker 2
You also need to do your research ahead of time. If you've got a.
01:10:30.970 — 01:10:31.250 · Speaker 3
Guest.
01:10:31.290 — 01:10:37.730 · Speaker 1
And you need to absolutely know what the heck you're going to talk about with them. It's a little bit less loose.
01:10:37.770 — 01:10:39.130 · Speaker 2
You can't be. It's embarrassing.
01:10:39.170 — 01:10:39.930 · Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:39.970 — 01:11:01.090 · Speaker 1
And then also the other thing that we do see is we, um, prep a whole lot of outfits. So every single episode, you'll see that we are in a different outfit. That's so that when you're watching the show, you are seeing it in a different way.
01:11:01.130 — 01:11:03.810 · Speaker 3
Yeah. Uh, we'll get up each each week.
01:11:03.890 — 01:11:08.290 · Speaker 2
As I man, it's quite hard to put together 12 different outfits.
01:11:08.650 — 01:11:09.290 · Speaker 3
Um, have.
01:11:09.290 — 01:11:10.530 · Speaker 1
You recycled some?
01:11:10.870 — 01:11:12.470 · Speaker 3
Yes. My pants.
01:11:13.190 — 01:11:15.310 · Speaker 2
I don't like my pants in the different episodes.
01:11:16.270 — 01:11:19.510 · Speaker 1
And what other prep do we do? We, um.
01:11:20.390 — 01:11:20.990 · Speaker 3
Yeah. We just.
01:11:20.990 — 01:11:21.310 · Speaker 1
Have to.
01:11:21.350 — 01:11:22.510 · Speaker 3
Liaise with our team.
01:11:22.790 — 01:11:24.550 · Speaker 2
In the shower. And the fetal getting nervous.
01:11:24.590 — 01:11:25.110 · Speaker 3
I do that.
01:11:25.150 — 01:11:25.710 · Speaker 1
You feel quite.
01:11:25.710 — 01:11:27.190 · Speaker 3
Nervous. No. Yeah.
01:11:27.390 — 01:11:27.990 · Speaker 2
Not anymore.
01:11:29.750 — 01:11:30.750 · Speaker 3
All right. Cool.
01:11:30.790 — 01:11:35.390 · Speaker 2
Um. Muslim mil asks, how much do we charge to run a podcast?
01:11:35.430 — 01:11:36.670 · Speaker 3
Okay. Yes.
01:11:36.670 — 01:11:37.310 · Speaker 2
Um.
01:11:37.670 — 01:12:00.830 · Speaker 1
So we've got a website. Um, for her studios. You can go and head over to that site. Um, there's a packages, um, section of the site, but basically the entry level cost for for a podcast is 40 grand a month for six months. Um, and that will get you 13 episodes, which will last you six months.
01:12:00.870 — 01:12:01.350 · Speaker 3
Yeah.
01:12:01.390 — 01:12:16.180 · Speaker 1
Obviously we want to be, um, flexible. So depending on what kind of podcast you are looking to do, um, you can get in touch with us and we can match a set of outputs to your budget.
01:12:16.220 — 01:12:26.300 · Speaker 2
Yeah, okay. Uh, Michael asks uh, from when you started to now, has this show ended up in a way that we thought it would.
01:12:27.060 — 01:12:27.500 · Speaker 3
Mhm.
01:12:28.140 — 01:12:50.540 · Speaker 1
Yes and no. For me, I think that I was more sort of apprehensive about the fact that no one was going to listen. And we, we don't have a big listenership but by many famous podcast standards. And, but we have enough for me to feel relieved.
01:12:50.580 — 01:12:52.620 · Speaker 3
Maybe is the word. Yeah.
01:12:52.620 — 01:13:01.860 · Speaker 1
Um, that there is actually enough interest for the topic that we find interesting. There are actually listeners for that content.
01:13:01.900 — 01:13:13.720 · Speaker 2
Yeah. I think for me, uh, it's exceeded my expectations as kind of I think it looks better than I thought sounded than I thought. Yes. Uh, not quite as cringey as I thought.
01:13:13.760 — 01:13:14.400 · Speaker 3
Yes.
01:13:14.440 — 01:13:24.240 · Speaker 2
Um, and, you know, we're getting people actually commenting and engaging and watching our content, which is cool. It is a stressful moment when you put your first episode out and you already know how it's going.
01:13:24.280 — 01:13:45.120 · Speaker 1
And I think that what's been cool to see is that that first app, if we rewatch that now, compared to the more recent episodes that have gone out and the the traction is better, or that we're getting more views, obviously that happens because the channels have grown. But, um, I also think that we look and sound better ourselves.
01:13:45.160 — 01:13:45.880 · Speaker 3
Yes, for.
01:13:45.880 — 01:13:46.560 · Speaker 1
Sure. We've gotten.
01:13:46.560 — 01:13:46.720 · Speaker 3
Better.
01:13:46.720 — 01:13:48.720 · Speaker 2
We feel better about doing the.
01:13:48.720 — 01:13:49.280 · Speaker 3
Episodes.
01:13:49.280 — 01:13:49.520 · Speaker 2
Than.
01:13:49.520 — 01:13:51.000 · Speaker 3
I did. So just that.
01:13:51.160 — 01:14:02.560 · Speaker 1
And that actually happened quicker than I think I expected. You know, I think for a lot of people, the the actual doing of the shooting of the episode is, is nerve wracking.
01:14:02.600 — 01:14:02.800 · Speaker 3
Yeah.
01:14:02.840 — 01:14:06.400 · Speaker 1
And I think that we we got over that quite quickly.
01:14:06.440 — 01:14:07.040 · Speaker 3
Yeah.
01:14:07.480 — 01:14:12.360 · Speaker 1
Chiquita has asked how have you handled negative reviews or trolls?
01:14:12.920 — 01:14:13.599 · Speaker 2
I think
01:14:15.070 — 01:14:21.950 · Speaker 2
if feedback is consistent and it's like negative feedback, if it's consistent, it's probably a pattern and you should probably.
01:14:21.950 — 01:14:22.390 · Speaker 3
Look at it.
01:14:22.430 — 01:14:23.990 · Speaker 1
We haven't had any of that.
01:14:24.150 — 01:14:25.670 · Speaker 2
No, we've only had trolls.
01:14:25.710 — 01:14:28.270 · Speaker 3
Trolls. If it's after.
01:14:28.270 — 01:14:28.750 · Speaker 1
The question.
01:14:28.750 — 01:14:29.110 · Speaker 3
Richard.
01:14:29.150 — 01:14:32.750 · Speaker 2
If it's a troll. No, I think if it's a negative comment.
01:14:32.790 — 01:14:33.470 · Speaker 3
Yes.
01:14:33.510 — 01:14:47.710 · Speaker 2
That's isolated. Yes, that's that's fine. If it's a consistent critique, you should probably use that as a learning experience. I agree. Um, but as far as trolls go, if it's just someone saying I don't like your face or.
01:14:47.710 — 01:14:48.230 · Speaker 3
Something.
01:14:48.270 — 01:14:49.510 · Speaker 2
Just ignore that.
01:14:49.550 — 01:14:51.150 · Speaker 3
Yes. I mean, and that's what we did.
01:14:51.150 — 01:14:52.430 · Speaker 1
We just ignored it.
01:14:52.470 — 01:14:53.470 · Speaker 2
We've just ignored.
01:14:53.470 — 01:14:54.030 · Speaker 3
It. Yes.
01:14:54.070 — 01:14:54.590 · Speaker 2
As best we.
01:14:54.590 — 01:14:54.830 · Speaker 3
Can.
01:14:54.870 — 01:14:55.270 · Speaker 1
As best.
01:14:55.270 — 01:14:55.710 · Speaker 3
We can.
01:14:55.950 — 01:15:01.670 · Speaker 1
Yeah. I think the thing is, it's going to happen. It's not a case of if, it's a case of when.
01:15:02.310 — 01:15:04.270 · Speaker 2
You can't please all the people all the time.
01:15:04.310 — 01:15:05.550 · Speaker 3
Especially on the internet.
01:15:06.270 — 01:15:07.390 · Speaker 1
Yes. And especially.
01:15:07.390 — 01:15:07.550 · Speaker 3
On.
01:15:07.550 — 01:15:08.470 · Speaker 2
I added the internet.
01:15:08.470 — 01:15:08.830 · Speaker 3
Part.
01:15:08.870 — 01:15:10.230 · Speaker 1
Yeah, it was clever, I liked it.
01:15:11.270 — 01:15:12.790 · Speaker 1
All right. Last question.
01:15:13.070 — 01:15:18.250 · Speaker 2
Okay. This one is what inspired Harjo Studios into existence.
01:15:18.370 — 01:15:18.810 · Speaker 3
Mhm.
01:15:19.090 — 01:15:22.650 · Speaker 2
I assume not the podcast, but the business itself.
01:15:22.690 — 01:15:23.290 · Speaker 3
Yes.
01:15:23.330 — 01:15:23.970 · Speaker 2
Um.
01:15:24.250 — 01:15:25.210 · Speaker 3
Do you need.
01:15:25.610 — 01:15:27.210 · Speaker 1
Was what inspired it?
01:15:27.250 — 01:15:32.210 · Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, we, we obviously run a marketing company and there is a
01:15:33.370 — 01:15:35.650 · Speaker 2
dire need for content.
01:15:35.690 — 01:15:37.170 · Speaker 3
Yes. Um, and.
01:15:37.170 — 01:15:41.210 · Speaker 1
A place to create it and a team on standby.
01:15:41.210 — 01:15:57.530 · Speaker 2
And meaningful quality content. Yeah, we needed that for our clients. Yes. Um, so we wanted to make a space for them to do that. And then the this podcast itself is us sort of, um, putting our money where our mouth is and doing it as well.
01:15:57.570 — 01:15:58.090 · Speaker 3
Yes.
01:15:58.210 — 01:16:19.720 · Speaker 1
And I think also, you know, there's logistics and operational things that have to come into any offering that you, you give to a client. And when it's a new offering, you have to really get to know what's ahead of you so that you're not learning all of that on a paying client?
01:16:19.760 — 01:16:20.280 · Speaker 3
Yeah.
01:16:20.320 — 01:16:33.080 · Speaker 1
Um, and so doing the podcast ourselves has helped us not only kind of, um, create our own content, which was something we, we wanted to do anyway, but also figure out all that operational.
01:16:33.080 — 01:16:33.800 · Speaker 3
Stuff, stuff.
01:16:34.000 — 01:16:46.600 · Speaker 1
And the logistics and being able to now understand what goes into it before our client has to do it. Um, it's been it's been tremendously useful and super fun.
01:16:46.760 — 01:16:47.840 · Speaker 3
Mhm. Yeah.
01:16:48.120 — 01:16:57.960 · Speaker 1
Okay. Cool. Thanks everyone for those questions. Um, those of you at the office, I recognize your names here. Thank you very much for sending your questions.
01:16:57.960 — 01:16:59.880 · Speaker 2
I didn't appreciate the troll ones, though.
01:16:59.920 — 01:17:02.680 · Speaker 3
Yes. From the office.
01:17:04.160 — 01:17:13.160 · Speaker 1
Yeah. Stop trolling us at the office. No. Um, thanks for listening. If you have any comments or questions for us, as usual, please leave them below. And.
